les gaz à effet de serre et toute activité humaine nuisible n'arrangent pas mais la Nature est ce qu'elle est !
En réponse au message de craig_lyner :
la canicule est un phénomène naturel ...le "réchauffement climatique" est une idéologie ! j'ai bientôt 50 ans et petit enfant on me parlait des ours polaires en danger et des fontes glaciaires et des banquises ....
Dans les années 70 l'alarmisme concernait un refroidissement total de la planète avec tout un tas d'études alors bon le prêche de certains ayatollahs me passent au-dessus.
1970 - Colder Winters Held Dawn of New Ice Age - Scientists See Ice Age In the Future (The Washington Post, January * - Is M
ankind Manufactuгіпg a New Ice Age for Itself? (L.A. Times, January * - New Ice Age May
Descend On Man (Sumter Daily Item, January * - Pollution Prospect A Chill
ing One (The Argus-Press, January * - Pollution's 2-way 'Freeze' On Society
(Middlesboro Daily News, January * - Cold Facts About Pollution (The Southeast Missou
rian, January * - Pollution Could Cause Ice Age, Agency Reports (St. Petersbu
rg Times, March * - Scientist predicts a new ice age by 21st century (The Boston Globe, A
pril * - Pollution Called Ice Age Threat (St. Petersburg Times, June * - U.S. and Sovie
t Press Studies of a Colder Arctic (The New York Times, July * - Dirt Will
Bring New Ice Age (The Sydney Morning Herald, October * - Ice Age Refugee Dies Underground
(Montreal Gazette, Febuary * - Pollution Might Lead To Another Ice Age (The Sc
henectady Gazette, March * - Pollution May Bring Ice Age - Scientist Rites
Risk (The Windsor Star, March * - U.S. Scientist Sees New Ice Age Coming (The Washingto
n Post, July * - Ice Age Around the Corner (Chicago Tribune, July * - Danger: Ice age may
lurk in dusty skies (The Christian Science Monitor, July * - New Ice Age Coming
- It's Already Getting Colder (L.A. Times, October * - Another
Ice Age? Pollution Blocking Sunlight (The Day, November * - Air Pollution Could Bring An Ice
Age (Harlan Daily Enterprise, November * - Air pollution may cause ice age (Free-Lan
ce Star, February * - Scientist Says New ice Age Coming (The Ledger, February
* - Ice Age Cometh For Dicey Times (The Sun, May * - Ice Age Coming (Deseret News, S
eptember * - There's a new Ice Age coming! (The Windsor Star, September
* - Scientist predicts new ice age (Free-Lance Star, September * - Bri
tish Expert on Climate Change Says New Ice Age Creeping Over N
orthern Hemisphere (Lewiston Evening Journal, September
* - Climate Seen Cooling For Return Of Ice Age (The Portsmouth Times, Se
ptember * - New Ice Age Slipping Over North (The Press-Courier, September
* - Beginning of new ice age (The Canberra Times, September * - Ice Age Begins A New Assault In North (The Age, September * - Weathe
r To Get Colder (Montreal Gazette, September * - British climate expert predicts new Ice Age
(The Christian Science Monitor, September * - Scientist Sees Chilling Signs
of New Ice Age (L.A. Times, September * - Science: Another Ice Age? (Ti
me Magazine, November * - Geologist at Case Traces Long Winters - Sees Ic
e Age in 20 Years (Youngstown Vindicator, December * - Ice Age On It
s Way, Scientist Says (Toledo Blade, December * - Ice Age Predicted In About 200 Years (The Portsmout
h Times, December * - New Ice Age coming? (Popular Science, January * - The Ice A
ge Cometh (The Saturday Review, March * - Believe new ice age is c
oming (The Bryan Times, March * - 'Man-made Ice Age' Worries Scientists (The Free Lance-Star, June * - Fear Of
Man-made Ice Age (The Spartanburg Herald, June * - Possibility Of Ice Age
Worries The Scientists (The Argus-Press, November * - Weather-watchers think another
ice age may be on the way (The Christian Science Monitor,
December * - Omіпоus Changes in the World's Weather (PDF) (For
tune Magazine, February * - Atmospheric Dirt: Ice Age Coming? (Pitts
burgh Press, February * - Support for theory of a cooling world (The Canberra Ti
mes, May * - New evidence indicates ice age here (Eugene Register-Guar
d, May * - Another Ice Age? (Time Magazine, June * Scientists Think 'Little' Ice Age N
ear (Hartford Courant, August * - Climate: A Key to the World's Food Supply (NOAA, October, * - Ice Age, worse
food crisis seen (Chicago Tribune, October * - Imminent Arrival of the Ice (Radio Ti
mes, November * - Making a BBC Science Special [The Weather Machine] (New Scie
ntist, November * - The Weather Machine (BBC, November * - New ice age 'coul
d be in our lifetime' (The Canberra Times, November * - Believes Pollution Coul
d Bring On Ice Age (Ludington Daily News, December *
- Pollution Could Spur Ice Age, Nasa Says (Beaver Country Times, December * - Air
Pollution May Trigger Ice Age, Scientists Feel (The Telegraph, Decemb
er * - More Air Pollution Could Trigger Ice Age Disaster (Daily Sentinel,
December * - Scientists Fear Smog Could Cause Ice Age (Milwaukee
Journal Sentinel, December * - Climate Changes Called Omіпоus (The New York Times, January
* - Climate Change: Chilling Possibilities (Scien
ce News, March * - B-r-r-r-r: New Ice Age on way soon? (Chicago Tribune, March * -
Cooling Trends Arouse Fear That New Ice Age Coming (Eugene Register-Guard, March * - I
s Another Ice Age Due? Arctic Ice Expands In Last Decade (Youngstown Vindicator, March *
- Is Earth Headed For Another Ice Age? (Reading Eagle, March * - New Ice Age Dawning? Sign
ificant Shift In Climate Seen (Times Daily, March * - There's Troublesome Weather Ahead (Tr
i City Herald, March * - Is Earth Doomed To Live Through Another Ice Age? (The Robesonian,
March * - The Ice Age cometh: the system that controls our climate (Chicago
Tribune, April * - The Cooling World (Newsweek, April * - Cooling trend
may signal coming of another Ice Age (The Sun, May * - Scientists Ask Why
World Climate Is Changing; Major Cooling May Be Ahead (PDF) (The New York Times, May * - The Arm
adillos Are Heading South; Ice Age Coming? Chilling Thought for Humanity. (Chicago Tribune, June * - Sum
mer of A New Ice Age (The Age, June * - In the Grip of a New Ice Age? (In
ternational Wildlife, July-August, * - Experts ponder another ice age (The Spokesman-Review
, September * - Oil Spill Could Cause New Ice Age (Milwaukee Journal Senti
nel, December * - Deadly Harvest [Film] (Starring: Kim Cattrall, Clint Walker, * - The
Cooling: Has the Next Ice Age Already Begun? [Book] (Lowell Ponte, * - Ice Age Predicted (Readi
ng Eagle, January * - Ice Age Predicted In Century
(Bangor Daily News, January * - It's Going To Get Chilly About 125 Years From N
ow (Sarasota Herald-Tribune, January * - Worrisome CIA Report; Even U.S. Farms May be Hit by Cooling Trend (U.S. News &
amp; World Report, May * - Blizzard - What Happens if it Doesn't Stop? [Book] (George Stone, * - The Weather Conspir
acy: The Coming of the New Ice Age [Book] (The Impact T
eam, * - The Ice Age Cometh... (New York Magazine, January * - The Big Freeze
(Time Magazine, January * - Has The Ice Age Cometh Again? (Calgary Herald, Fe
bruary * - Space Mirrors Proposed To Prevent Crop Freezes (Bangor Daily News, February
* - Sunspot lull may bring on new ice age (The Christian Science Monitor
, March * - We Will Freeze in the Dark (Capital Cities Communications Documentary,
Host: Nancy Dіскerson, April * - Ice! [Book] (Arnold Fed
erbush, * - The New Ice Age [Book] (Henry Gilfond, * - Winter May Be C
older Than In Last Ice Age (Deseret News, January * - Current Winters Seen Colder Than In Ice Age
(The Telegraph, January * - Winter Temperatures Colder Than Last Ice Age (Eugene Register-Guard, Eugene Register-Gua
rd, January * - International Team of Specialists Finds No End in Sight to 30
-Year Cooling Trend in Northern Hemisphere (The New York Times, January * - Little Ice Age
: Severe winters and cool summers ahead (Calgary Herald, January *
- Winters Will Get Colder, 'we're Entering Little Ice
Age' (Daily Record, January * - Geologist Says Winters Getting Colder
(Middlesboro Daily News, January * - It's Going To Get Colder (Boca Raton News, January
* - Another Ice Age? (Kentucky New Era, February * - Another Ice Age? (Reading Eagle, Feb
ruary * - The Coming Ice Age (In Search Of TV Show, Season 2, Episode 23, Host: Leonard Nimoy, May * - An Ice Age
Is Coming Weather Expert Fears (Milwaukee S
entinel, November * - A Choice of Catastrophes - T
he Disasters That Threaten Our World [Book] (Isaac Asimov, * - The Sixth Winter
[Book] (John R. Gribbin, * - The New Ice Age Cometh (The Age, January * - Ice Ag
e Building Up (Daily Record, June * - Large Glacial Buildup Could Mean Ice Age (Daily Chronicle, June * - Ice Ag
e On Its Way (Lewiston Morning Tribune, June * - Get Ready to Freeze (Daily Chronicle, October * - New ice age almost upon us? (The Christian Sci
ence Monitor, November 14, 1979)
Ça va ? Nos grands érudits de la zététique n'ont pas trop mal a
u сul ?
En réponse au message de tenebro :
Non car les gueux vivent ou survivent ils n'ont pas le choix, les autres gaspillent. Si écologie punitive il doit y avoir c'est pour les gros pollueurs. Pour les prolos, ce doit être incitatif.
Mais non pour les citoyens : il faut "une incitation"... que ça devienne "un mode de vie" donc, de la pédagogie/rééducation pour/vers un changement, financements publiques & privés des rénovations des logements par exemple etc... mais aussi "des obligations" pour les citoyens => "la nature humaine", elle est ce qu'elle est ^^ sinon, ça ne se fera pas.
je n'écoute pas tous ces alarmistes !!! les dinosaures ont bien vécu beaucoup plus longtemps que nous sur Terre ! et la nature en a fait autrement pour ces reptiles ! le sort pourrait nous être réservé de la même façon ...même en ayant des discours alarmistes par ces bien pensants pseudo scientifiques !!
ne plus polluer serait du bon sens
En réponse au message de ufo203284 :
- D'accord sur l'écologie punitive pour les gros pollueurs.
Mais non pour les citoyens : il faut "une incitation"... que ça devienne "un mode de vie" donc, de la pédagogie/rééducation pour/vers un changement, financements publiques & privés des rénovations des logements par exemple etc... mais aussi "des obligations" pour les citoyens => "la nature humaine", elle est ce qu'elle est ^^ sinon, ça ne se fera pas.
Non, si tu veux changer les habitudes de quelqu'un, il faut réussir à le séduire. Et j'ajoute que polluer moins n'est pas la solution, il faut dépolluer. Et non pour des raisons climatiques, tout simplement car il s'agit de notre environnement, de notre santé et de notre civisme.
En réponse au message de tenebro :
Dans les années 70 l'alarmisme concernait un refroidissement total de la planète avec tout un tas d'études alors bon le prêche de certains ayatollahs me passent au-dessus.
1970 - Colder Winters Held Dawn of New Ice Age - Scientists See Ice Age In the Future (The Washington Post, January * - Is M
ankind Manufactuгіпg a New Ice Age for Itself? (L.A. Times, January * - New Ice Age May
Descend On Man (Sumter Daily Item, January * - Pollution Prospect A Chill
ing One (The Argus-Press, January * - Pollution's 2-way 'Freeze' On Society
(Middlesboro Daily News, January * - Cold Facts About Pollution (The Southeast Missou
rian, January * - Pollution Could Cause Ice Age, Agency Reports (St. Petersbu
rg Times, March * - Scientist predicts a new ice age by 21st century (The Boston Globe, A
pril * - Pollution Called Ice Age Threat (St. Petersburg Times, June * - U.S. and Sovie
t Press Studies of a Colder Arctic (The New York Times, July * - Dirt Will
Bring New Ice Age (The Sydney Morning Herald, October * - Ice Age Refugee Dies Underground
(Montreal Gazette, Febuary * - Pollution Might Lead To Another Ice Age (The Sc
henectady Gazette, March * - Pollution May Bring Ice Age - Scientist Rites
Risk (The Windsor Star, March * - U.S. Scientist Sees New Ice Age Coming (The Washingto
n Post, July * - Ice Age Around the Corner (Chicago Tribune, July * - Danger: Ice age may
lurk in dusty skies (The Christian Science Monitor, July * - New Ice Age Coming
- It's Already Getting Colder (L.A. Times, October * - Another
Ice Age? Pollution Blocking Sunlight (The Day, November * - Air Pollution Could Bring An Ice
Age (Harlan Daily Enterprise, November * - Air pollution may cause ice age (Free-Lan
ce Star, February * - Scientist Says New ice Age Coming (The Ledger, February
* - Ice Age Cometh For Dicey Times (The Sun, May * - Ice Age Coming (Deseret News, S
eptember * - There's a new Ice Age coming! (The Windsor Star, September
* - Scientist predicts new ice age (Free-Lance Star, September * - Bri
tish Expert on Climate Change Says New Ice Age Creeping Over N
orthern Hemisphere (Lewiston Evening Journal, September
* - Climate Seen Cooling For Return Of Ice Age (The Portsmouth Times, Se
ptember * - New Ice Age Slipping Over North (The Press-Courier, September
* - Beginning of new ice age (The Canberra Times, September * - Ice Age Begins A New Assault In North (The Age, September * - Weathe
r To Get Colder (Montreal Gazette, September * - British climate expert predicts new Ice Age
(The Christian Science Monitor, September * - Scientist Sees Chilling Signs
of New Ice Age (L.A. Times, September * - Science: Another Ice Age? (Ti
me Magazine, November * - Geologist at Case Traces Long Winters - Sees Ic
e Age in 20 Years (Youngstown Vindicator, December * - Ice Age On It
s Way, Scientist Says (Toledo Blade, December * - Ice Age Predicted In About 200 Years (The Portsmout
h Times, December * - New Ice Age coming? (Popular Science, January * - The Ice A
ge Cometh (The Saturday Review, March * - Believe new ice age is c
oming (The Bryan Times, March * - 'Man-made Ice Age' Worries Scientists (The Free Lance-Star, June * - Fear Of
Man-made Ice Age (The Spartanburg Herald, June * - Possibility Of Ice Age
Worries The Scientists (The Argus-Press, November * - Weather-watchers think another
ice age may be on the way (The Christian Science Monitor,
December * - Omіпоus Changes in the World's Weather (PDF) (For
tune Magazine, February * - Atmospheric Dirt: Ice Age Coming? (Pitts
burgh Press, February * - Support for theory of a cooling world (The Canberra Ti
mes, May * - New evidence indicates ice age here (Eugene Register-Guar
d, May * - Another Ice Age? (Time Magazine, June * Scientists Think 'Little' Ice Age N
ear (Hartford Courant, August * - Climate: A Key to the World's Food Supply (NOAA, October, * - Ice Age, worse
food crisis seen (Chicago Tribune, October * - Imminent Arrival of the Ice (Radio Ti
mes, November * - Making a BBC Science Special [The Weather Machine] (New Scie
ntist, November * - The Weather Machine (BBC, November * - New ice age 'coul
d be in our lifetime' (The Canberra Times, November * - Believes Pollution Coul
d Bring On Ice Age (Ludington Daily News, December *
- Pollution Could Spur Ice Age, Nasa Says (Beaver Country Times, December * - Air
Pollution May Trigger Ice Age, Scientists Feel (The Telegraph, Decemb
er * - More Air Pollution Could Trigger Ice Age Disaster (Daily Sentinel,
December * - Scientists Fear Smog Could Cause Ice Age (Milwaukee
Journal Sentinel, December * - Climate Changes Called Omіпоus (The New York Times, January
* - Climate Change: Chilling Possibilities (Scien
ce News, March * - B-r-r-r-r: New Ice Age on way soon? (Chicago Tribune, March * -
Cooling Trends Arouse Fear That New Ice Age Coming (Eugene Register-Guard, March * - I
s Another Ice Age Due? Arctic Ice Expands In Last Decade (Youngstown Vindicator, March *
- Is Earth Headed For Another Ice Age? (Reading Eagle, March * - New Ice Age Dawning? Sign
ificant Shift In Climate Seen (Times Daily, March * - There's Troublesome Weather Ahead (Tr
i City Herald, March * - Is Earth Doomed To Live Through Another Ice Age? (The Robesonian,
March * - The Ice Age cometh: the system that controls our climate (Chicago
Tribune, April * - The Cooling World (Newsweek, April * - Cooling trend
may signal coming of another Ice Age (The Sun, May * - Scientists Ask Why
World Climate Is Changing; Major Cooling May Be Ahead (PDF) (The New York Times, May * - The Arm
adillos Are Heading South; Ice Age Coming? Chilling Thought for Humanity. (Chicago Tribune, June * - Sum
mer of A New Ice Age (The Age, June * - In the Grip of a New Ice Age? (In
ternational Wildlife, July-August, * - Experts ponder another ice age (The Spokesman-Review
, September * - Oil Spill Could Cause New Ice Age (Milwaukee Journal Senti
nel, December * - Deadly Harvest [Film] (Starring: Kim Cattrall, Clint Walker, * - The
Cooling: Has the Next Ice Age Already Begun? [Book] (Lowell Ponte, * - Ice Age Predicted (Readi
ng Eagle, January * - Ice Age Predicted In Century
(Bangor Daily News, January * - It's Going To Get Chilly About 125 Years From N
ow (Sarasota Herald-Tribune, January * - Worrisome CIA Report; Even U.S. Farms May be Hit by Cooling Trend (U.S. News &
amp; World Report, May * - Blizzard - What Happens if it Doesn't Stop? [Book] (George Stone, * - The Weather Conspir
acy: The Coming of the New Ice Age [Book] (The Impact T
eam, * - The Ice Age Cometh... (New York Magazine, January * - The Big Freeze
(Time Magazine, January * - Has The Ice Age Cometh Again? (Calgary Herald, Fe
bruary * - Space Mirrors Proposed To Prevent Crop Freezes (Bangor Daily News, February
* - Sunspot lull may bring on new ice age (The Christian Science Monitor
, March * - We Will Freeze in the Dark (Capital Cities Communications Documentary,
Host: Nancy Dіскerson, April * - Ice! [Book] (Arnold Fed
erbush, * - The New Ice Age [Book] (Henry Gilfond, * - Winter May Be C
older Than In Last Ice Age (Deseret News, January * - Current Winters Seen Colder Than In Ice Age
(The Telegraph, January * - Winter Temperatures Colder Than Last Ice Age (Eugene Register-Guard, Eugene Register-Gua
rd, January * - International Team of Specialists Finds No End in Sight to 30
-Year Cooling Trend in Northern Hemisphere (The New York Times, January * - Little Ice Age
: Severe winters and cool summers ahead (Calgary Herald, January *
- Winters Will Get Colder, 'we're Entering Little Ice
Age' (Daily Record, January * - Geologist Says Winters Getting Colder
(Middlesboro Daily News, January * - It's Going To Get Colder (Boca Raton News, January
* - Another Ice Age? (Kentucky New Era, February * - Another Ice Age? (Reading Eagle, Feb
ruary * - The Coming Ice Age (In Search Of TV Show, Season 2, Episode 23, Host: Leonard Nimoy, May * - An Ice Age
Is Coming Weather Expert Fears (Milwaukee S
entinel, November * - A Choice of Catastrophes - T
he Disasters That Threaten Our World [Book] (Isaac Asimov, * - The Sixth Winter
[Book] (John R. Gribbin, * - The New Ice Age Cometh (The Age, January * - Ice Ag
e Building Up (Daily Record, June * - Large Glacial Buildup Could Mean Ice Age (Daily Chronicle, June * - Ice Ag
e On Its Way (Lewiston Morning Tribune, June * - Get Ready to Freeze (Daily Chronicle, October * - New ice age almost upon us? (The Christian Sci
ence Monitor, November 14, 1979)
Ça va ? Nos grands érudits de la zététique n'ont pas trop mal au сul ?
En réponse au message de ufo203284 :
- & la suite ? stp ^^

oui on pourrait parler du " refroidissement climatique" !!!!

En réponse au message de craig_lyner :
la canicule est un phénomène naturel ...le "réchauffement climatique" est une idéologie ! j'ai bientôt 50 ans et petit enfant on me parlait des ours polaires en danger et des fontes glaciaires et des banquises ....

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